Shafinaaz Hassim

This guest interview was compiled by Karen Lotter.

Izimvo is honoured to introduce Artist, Writer and Academic: Shafinaaz Hassim.

Since graduating from the University of Witwatersrand with a Masters of Arts in Social Science, Shafinaaz has gone on to publish two acclaimed books namely “Daughters and Diamonds” and “Memoirs for Kimya”.

As an identity theorist, Shafinaaz’s work involves biography and the documentation of narrative. “It is really about giving voice to woman, making their stories heard”.

Website: http://shafinaaz.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/shafinaaz
Location: Johannesburg

Shafinaaz was kind enough to answer the following questions:

Personal

Q: The all important personal profile. How would a close friend introduce you at a social event? i.e. Name, age, company, interesting fact etc.

A: I’m running the possibilities through my head and thinking that there’s a number of ways I could be introduced at different social events! I guess this speaks of the nature of multiple caps that we tend to wear over time; so it would have to be, Shafinaaz, a 32 two-year old Aquarian, originally from what was Pietersburg in the Limpopo, having left the corporate world behind me, I am also a full time writer, author of 2 and a half books (kind of like a pregnancy, with cravings, minus the nausea) and the founder of WordFire Press.

Q: Your hometown is Polokwane. You now live mostly in Johannesburg. Tell us some experiences about growing up in a relatively small town in South Africa.

A: I left Polokwane in 1995. My fondest memory of high school, and being at home, has to be quality family time around the dinner table. And walking home from school with a throng of other kids from my high school (which was down the road in Nirvana, the “Indian” ghetto, where we lived).

I loved that our homes and gardens flowed into those of our neighbours, and that all their doors were open to us; at the end of Ramadaan, the Muslim month of fasting, everyone would come out into the street, craning their necks to look for the new moon.

I remember a tree that we used to climb in the garden around the house we grew up in, the smell of the mudcakes we played with, and the mulberries we collected near our school, only to return home with armfuls of them, and deep red stains on our clothes.

So in many ways, there’s a lot of inspiration for an artist in my memories of my childhood in a small town that did so much to awaken my senses while growing up.

Q: How about something that not many others know about you. This could be anything from a phobia to a passion to your favorite movie.

A: Now, would I really want to broadcast something I may have hidden from scrutiny for all this time? :) Alright, let’s see. I have a phobia and an equal fascination for the ocean. I’m the only person in my family who cannot swim! Have I tried to conquer this? Yes and No. Favourite movie is a tough one. Thankfully, you haven’t asked me about a favourite book!

Q: What do you enjoy doing when you want to get away from it all?

A: Painting…. I love the feel of oil paint in my hands, a new canvas, and an unplanned few hours of creative freedom. And I love washing dishes. I think the water, the monotony of the act, allows me to take my mind off anything that might be grating my nerves. Back to that water fascination :)

Q: How would you describe your dream home and where in South African would you like it to be?

A: I’ve lived in Polokwane, Johannesburg and in Durban. But if I had a choice, then I would opt to live in Cape Town; by far the jewel in SA’s crown, there’s magic between that Mountain and the ocean… something that I don’t think exists most other places in the world. A cottage with a view of the ocean and the sea would be my ideal home; a writer’s paradise, wouldn’t you say?

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Q: What book/books are on your bedside table?

A: I have a single bookshelf on the floor of my bedroom, but books that I’m reading at the moment, juggling research and leisure as follows:

“Walter & Albertina Sisulu- In Our Lifetime.” – Elinor Sisulu.
“On Writing.” – Stephen King.
“Gandhi’s Prisoner?” – Uma Dhupelia-Mesthrie.
“Kaifi and I” – Shaukat Kaifi.
“The Essential Rumi” – Coleman Barks.

Q: What music do you listen to in your car or on the radio?

A: I alternate between the cd-shuttle and the radio: in Jozi it’s usually Highveld or Five FM, and in Polokwane its Jacaranda or Five FM. Spinning in the CD shuttle, usually Bollywood mixes, some Arabic recitations, some Sufi poetry.

Acedemic and Writer

Q: On Facebook you call yourself: Shafinaaz is a sociologist, a biographer, a writer & a poet, including brief flirtations with oil on canvas. She is the author of “Daughters are Diamonds: Honour, Shame & Seclusion- A South African Perspective” (2007) & “Memoirs for Kimya” (2009). Can you please unpack this?

A: I obtained my MA in Sociology at Wits University in 2004. My thesis inspired the manuscript for my first publication, “Daughters are Diamonds” and this work documents the biographies of six Indian Muslim women from South Africa; it looks at the various themes that emanate from their life narratives and uses these as template for testing, for example, common decision-making against financial independence.

But it also seeks to dispel myths that oppressive behaviour is coded in the pure text of the Qur’an. Rather than adhering to patriarchal cultural practice keeps women subjugated; that what people have come to accept as correct behaviour is far off from the nature of spiritual teachings that encourage growth and development of individuals.

“Memoirs for Kimya” is an anthology that takes from these ideas, short fiction, prose and poetry that encapsulates the struggling themes of autonomy, self-realisation, silence, devastation, inferiority, self-worth, shame, guilt, etc. http://shafinaaz.com/Books.php

Q: Academic, Writer, Artist – in which order would you put these and why.

A: Artist, Writer, Academic. I think that the order makes sense to me this way, because I think of life as a theatre of artistic expression. And whether I employ academic reasoning or the vehicle of fiction in order to present themes and messages, I am a writer first, and then take to the label of an academic.

But then, while typing this, it also appears that this is a rather academic analysis as opposed to a straightforward response; so I would say at the outset that we wear our labels as layers, super-imposed and fluid, changing as we might need them to. Some days the academic must stand before the others; while on some other days, it is the academic and reason that must take the backseat, while the emotive artist is heard. I wear my different caps gladly, knowing full well that we’re multi-dimensioned in our expressions of choice.

Q: There must be a next book in the pipeline…

A: I have just completed the manuscript for a novel, called ‘The Silence of A Hundred Tongues’. The title is taken from a poem by a 13th century poet, Rumi, and goes something like this: ‘…let your voice silence the lily, famous for its hundred tongues.’ It refers to the loss of voice experienced by women in abusive relationships; and the plot outlines the story of a woman whose husband abuses her, and she presents a glorified public façade until it all falls apart for her. The manuscript has been sent to an agent and so we await the results on that.

I am currently working on a political biography that will most likely be ready for peer review later this year. It is to be the life of Maulvi IA Cachalia, who was Mandela’s deputy chief in command during the defiance campaign, was sent to the Bundung Conference in 1955 along with Moses Kotane, also set up the first ANC mission in Delhi in the 60’s and went on to win a prestigious Padma Shri Award in India for his socio-political contributions. Interviews have been ongoing for a year now, and the results are developing into a rather fascinating narrative.

Life in South Africa

Q: Have you or any of your immediate family been affected by crime? If yes, has it changed your perception of the country and the way you and your family live your lives?

A: We were robbed at our home in Polokwane sometime in 2001; I was held at gunpoint while my dad was beat up by the robbers. The incident was traumatic and continues to be so, and I remember that we took a vacation soon afterward to recuperate, and to appreciate the life and togetherness that we have.

Living in SA makes you constantly aware of becoming a crime statistic, but it hasn’t made us leave the country. And I don’t think that it’s about being neutral to the concept; just about being vigilant, making safety choices, and counting quality of life by the proximity to loved ones in this country we call home.

Q: Have you ever considered emigration? If yes, where do you think you would emigrate to?

A: I’ve travelled the world, and while I love many countries, especially in the East, there comes a point when you know that you need to get home. If there was a place that I would emigrate to, it might be Dubai for a short while.

Q: Is their one factor or element that you think can unite South Africans and why?

A: The clichés come to mind: Love, Peace, Freedom. But they’re not really cliché if they allow for a collective conscious of our spiritual oneness. If we recognize the humanity in each of us, then we really won’t have the time to nit pick the supposed differences.

Q: If you had the opportunity to sit down with President Zuma, what advice would you offer him?

A: This is getting tougher. Advice for the charismatic leader Jacob Zuma would be to watch Spiderman. With great power comes great responsibility.

Q: To which three attractions would you first take an international visitor?

A: Tzaneen/Haenetsburg- not far from where I grew up in the North, the tea plantations and scenic waterfalls make for an amazing experience of South Africa’s beauty; Table Mountain (and Cape Town in general); and Port Alfred.

Q: South Africa’s greatest export is?

A: Diamonds, Gold and Mandela.

Life in Johannesburg

Q: What are favorite venues for a great night/day out?

A: Ocean Basket, Primi Piatti, Moyo and JB’s @Melrose Arch are of my favourite places. Jimmy’s and Nescafe in Fordsburg. Bokhara and Papa’s-on-the-Square in Sandton. Also hotel coffee shops at Melrose Arch, the Hyatt and a host of others as we’re constantly finding new places all around the city, Rivonia, Norwood, Mellville, etc. Favoured place for a Friday night is home; after a long week. Friends are most welcome, of course. Mugg & Bean Killarney is my favourite daytime place; with the view over the highway, I find it a great place to write. Second only to M&B Suncoast with its ocean view.

Q: What do you most enjoy about living in Johannesburg?

A: Johannesburg is central, in that I can take a flight to anywhere I need to be. But I also see the city as the essential heartbeat of Africa. And with that kind of vibe flowing from streets to veins, it difficult not to be inspired to write, to create! It’s a pretty addictive city. Just not for the feint hearted.

Q: Who makes the best breakfast in Johannesburg?

A: My Mom does!

Q: Do you think Jo’burg is geared to cater for Muslims who must have Halaal facilities and food? In fact for any other religions with special needs.

A: I think that for the most part, special needs catering is still ghetto-ized as a concept in SA. Fordsburg is teeming with Halaal outlets, as is Lenasia. You will find the odd place in Sandton, at the airport, in Randburg.

For a strict vegetarian, I’m not so sure that catering is given the discipline required to make people comfortable with eating out. Concerns about utensils, dual use of cooking oil for food prep, and a variety of other details might crop up, and as compared to Durban, there aren’t a significant number of food places that cater specifically for purely vegetarian meals.

Options do exist in most restaurant chains. Kosher and Halaal food’s are stored by community butcheries and grocers, probably within range of their target market; ghetto-ized as I said earlier, but clearly within the reach of people who need them. Also, it’s easy to find a range of imported foods and other items from around the world that cater for special meal needs.

General

Q: What are the luxury items that accompany you on a long trip?

A: I travel with a cell phone. I can actually do without a laptop (the internet) for a few days at a time. I think that’s quite a feat considering that just about everything is done online, these days.

Q: How do you keep yourself motivated after a tough day?

A: Meditation and prayer. Surrender to the tough is the best way to understand it, and then also the best way out of it.

Q: One book that you would make required reading for all matric pupils?

A: White Oleander by Janet Fitch.

Q: Favorite South African brand?

A: Zam-buk!

Q: Who would you most like to read about on Izimvo and what would you ask them?

A: Mr. Thabo Mbeki: Why so quiet, dude?

We’d like to thank Shafinaaz for taking the time to answer our questions and wish her every success with the future.

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Nathi Gumede

Izimvo has the pleasure of introducing curator and visual artist: Nathi Gumede.

Nkosinathi (Nathi) Gumede is an artist and a curator who feels that we South Africans need a 12th official language: Visual Art. Over the past few years he has been a familiar face on the Durban art scene at KZNSA Gallery, Kizo Galley and now at the DUT Gallery. During his term at Kizo, he also curated the annual Heritage Arts Festival.

Nathi has exhibited his own work in galleries such as the Norman Dunn gallery in Pietermaritzburg, the KZN Society of Arts Gallery and the African Art Centre Gallery just to name a few.

Location: Durban

Nathi was kind enough to answer the following questions for us:

Personal

Q: The all important personal profile. How would a close friend introduce you at a social event? i.e. Name, age, company, interesting fact etc.

A: Depending on who that friend is and also the type of function we are in. If it a work friend at a work function, He or she will introduce me by name and the company I work for. If it is a personal friend at a function that I am attending in a personal capacity, they will just introduce me by name only.

Q: Tell us something that not many others know about you. This could be anything from a phobia to your favorite movie.

A: I don’t like talking on a phone. When you are done saying what you called for, hang up and don’t make small talk. I also don’t like being indoors.

Q: What do you enjoy doing when you want to get away from it all?

A: Reading and listening to music.

Q: How would you describe your dream home and where in South African would you like it to be?

A: Small, three bedrooms at the most and the area will have to be KwaMashu in Durban.

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Art in South Africa

Q: What is the average day like as an art curator?

A: The average day will include a lot of emails, basically glued to a computer for almost the entire day. I guess that goes for all the Art Galleries that I worked for.

Q: Do you feel that government is doing enough to promote and develop the arts in South Africa?

A: No. I have a feeling that the Art industry lacks political support, which will in turn foster things like policy, white paper, infrastructure development etc. You may find that all the above mentioned factors are already in-place, it is just a case of poor communication and follow-up strategies.

Q: You’ve been a curator for over 10 years and have previously worked for prestigious galleries such as the NSA Gallery and the KZNSA Gallery. What advice would you give those wanting a career as a curator?

A: Do it for the love of it and you will have a sustainable career.

Q: Can you tell us about your role as Executive Director Committee member for the African Art Centre?

A: The African Art Centre is a NPO and they need the board of directors for guidance, strategic vision, leadership and general support. I guess my role and the role of the members who I served with was to provide that.

Q: How do you go about selecting an artist for an upcoming exhibition?

A: It is combination of things, among others is the kind of value the artist brings to the partnership, merit of His/Her work and relevance of the artist’s work to the vision and mission of that art gallery. That relevance could be socially or otherwise. That goes for all the Art Galleries that I have worked for.

Q: Which young South African artists have recently impressed you the most?

A: Lerato Shadi, Mary Sibande, Nontobeko Ntombela, Mlu Zondi and Daniel Halter.

Life in South Africa

Q: Have you or any of your immediate family been affected by crime? If yes, has it changed your perception of the country and the way you and your family live your lives?

A: Yes we have, I don’t however think that we have taken it to the extent of it changing our perception of the country. At the risk of speaking for my family, I will say we have treated them as just isolated unfortunate sets of events.

Q: Have you ever considered emigration? If yes, where do you think you would emigrate to?

A: No.

Q: If you were given the opportunity of sitting down with the president, what advice would you offer him?

A: That is a tough one. I guess the issue of Art development is of interest to me at this point in my life, beyond that is just normal issues, HIV and AIDS, crime, rural development, education etc.

Q: In your opinion, what is South Africa’s greatest artistic export?

A: I will have to be biased on this one and say Visual Art. Artists like Dumile Feni, Gerald Sekoto, Irma Stein have been flying the SA flag for decades now even long after their unfortunate deaths.

I also think we have something to offer the to world through our music. Without stating the obvious, the likes of the late Miriam Makeba, Leta Mbuli, Jonny Clegg, Black Mambazo, Hugh Masekala did a lot of work internationally in raising and ensuring that the world new about the plight of South Africans during the apartheid years. Even the contemporaries like Vusi Mahlasela, Thandiswa Mazwai and many others are.

Life in Durban

Q: What do you enjoy most about living in Durban?

A: My family and the people. Generally I find that people in Durban are warm and friendly to that of other cities that I have been, both here in South Africa and overseas.

Q: Where in or around Durban is the best place to view great South African art?

A: Durban Art Gallery, Artspace Durban, Gallery 415, Artisan, BAT centre, KZNSA Gallery, and the DUT Art Gallery.

Q: Favorite restaurant for a lazy Sunday afternoon lunch?

A: Circus Circus in Musgrave. My fiancé likes it there although we havent been there for a while.

Q: What are your thoughts on the FIFA World Cup and are you working on anything special for during the tournament?

A: I think the World Cup will offer a lot of awareness about the country. Obviously the Visual Art sector will benefit from that as well. Although I hear that studies show that majority of the people who travel with the World Cup, spend most of their time in their hotels and shopping malls. There is that small percentage of them who are culturally inclined and will make the effort to visit art galleries.

I also think that as South Africans we will have to derive strategies to ensure that we capitalise on the influx of people visiting our country during the tournament.

General

Q: If you could invite any three South Africans to dinner, who would you invite and what would you serve?

A: It is a bit corny I know, but it will have to be the old man, our former President Dr Nelson Mandela. I think the old man will make for an interesting dinner conversation. To serve, it will have to a sea food something like prawns or sushi. I am a sea food fanatic.

Q: If you were able to pick anyone as your mentor, who would it be and why?

A: Old man aside, it would have to be Oprah Winfrey. I have great respect for her. I don’t think I am able to articulate as to why because I wouldn’t know where to start. Maybe the Dalai Lama as well.

Q: One book that you would make required reading for all matric pupils?

A: ha ha ha. “I write What I Like” by the late Bantu Biko. I still want to read a book called “The story of Edgar Sawtelle” but I am yet to come across a store that has it.

Q: Favorite South African brand?

A: Stoned Cherrie.

Q: Where would you like to wake up tomorrow morning?

A: New York, just for the fun of it.

Q: Who would you most like to read about on Izimvo and what would you ask them?

A: Mlu Zondi. The question will be, how does he sustain his practice as a performing artist in this difficult industry of ours.

We’d like to thank Nathi for taking the time to answer our questions and wish him every success at the DUT Art Gallery.

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